big or small and the chamber that the smoke is going to travel is it to But a rule of thumb that goes for a lot of For your intake damper, you will need a damper to help control how much air comes in to it. I've been asked to build a triditional (not RF) pit out of this giant 42" diameter x 108" long surplus anhydrous amonia tank, about 600 gallons or so. For our big July 4 party, I need more capacity so I use baby backs, which are shorter, and three rib racks. I am anxious to here a response on the dynamics and/or physics behind it. Size of the Smoker. The total cooking surface on this grate is 477 square inches, which is above average in this smoker`s class. there is a thread at the smoke ring forum that addresses pit calculations and designs. Let me say first, I've always had good luck using the Feldon (and others) calculators to size fireboxes, openings, exhausts, etc. Interesting. putting a sub floor by: chipster I was wondering about putting the metal floor at the highest point of the firebox so it has to travel all the way across both sides of the meat . with an offset firebox. A little smoker theory. Will it work just as well as putting it on the sode The Wild Pig Smoker: The idea was to build as cheaply as possible a BBQ smoker. Once your firebox information is entered, you will see recommended volumes for the chimney, the air intakes, and the throat. Your suggestions . Have a buddy that has a 250 offset w/ an undersized FB. For your convenience, the whole body is mounted on a 2-wheel system. One option, suggested by reader Davidhag1 is to buy a replacement gasket designed for a Big Green Egg. Which Is The Best Small Offset Smoker? As you learn your smoker you may find that you need more smoke and you can close the smoke stack cover (also known as the rain cover) a little. I prefer ours tho) starts with the CC Volume and then moves to the firebox. The Fire Box is built using 1/4 inch plate for thickness and durability. These dampers should be easy. Water smokers, box, barrel, and pellet smokers do a fine job smoking meats and seafood.But nothing establishes your street cred as pit master who means business like an offset smoker. if this is out of this range you will find the smoker will be difficult to control. This can also protect your smoker from prolonged exposure to the sun. These smokers have a large top hatch and a decent-sized flatbed grate in the main cooking chamber and a large side firebox chamber. The general rule of thumb for a horizontal smoker is that the firebox should be 1/3 the size (volume) of the cooking chamber. I've found that 1/3 the size is good and I Experiment with different types of wood, like hickory and cherry. It must be sized appropriately based on the dimensions of the firebox and the cook chamber dimensions; Design Considerations. In a standard Offset this is done using the smoke stack damper. with a friend. The rear wall of the firebox rises vertically from the floor of the fireplace and then begins to slant towards the fireplace opening just at the top of the gas logs. _____ List the dims and we will all see what is going on here. How big is the firebox suppose to be? planned! My material hunt started w… regarding attaching the fire box behind and parallel to the smoke The air intakes are critical factors to providing the fire with enough air. I wanted something that I could do a whole hog on or just cook some weekend goodies. The flow of heat is more stable, because heat does not want to go sideways. I am building my very first smoker, what is your opinion Takes a while to get temps balanced and constantly adding wood and adjusting vents. A roof or awning can also provide benefits for the cook too. find that round fire boxes work better. Aspiring Pittmaster All the smoke from your firebox will flow into the cooking chamber, so you can smoke the meat indirectly and make the most of your flavored woods. You won’t likely be able to fit a full-size turkey on the 14” smoker but you can smoke a turkey breast on it. is 28" tall. Feldon’s BBQ Pit/Smoker Build Calculator for All Firebox Shapes v3.7. Step 3 Cover the smoker with an insulating jacket. After some studying (and drinking) over the problem, it dawned on me that I cut the hole in the firebox on the top and side feeding into the cook chamber. DoublePan™ Gravity Feed Smoker DIY Kit Now available!!! 325 Gal Propane Tank 100" 325 GALLON PROPANE TANK!!!!! Brinkmann, Oklahoma Joe, and Chargriller Baffle Plate Mods now Available!!! Older-style enamel refrigerators work best. This offset smoker weighs just under 150 pounds, making it extra heavy, however, it is due to the heavy-duty materials. The small trailer smoker i built back in 2011 had a way oversize box, took a lot of time testing and tuning to get the openings right so it would cook evenly and get a clean burn. Fewer things taste better off a charcoal grill than smoked spare or baby back ribs, with meat that falls off the bone. Nonetheless I was sure I could tune it to make it run good without shrinking the box but after months of trial and error well I was wrong, in the end I still had to modify the box down to about 107% and now it burns nice and clean, still runs a little too hot but I can live with it, right at 300 to 325 will absolutely not cook under 300. Now you have 2 pieces to move. It is a dual axle trailer using 3,500 lb. too small and you will not draw enough. The main function of the BP Gap is to choke down the volume of air but increase it’s velocity. This gives a total thickness of 62mm (2.5”) in the firebox, as opposed to just 6mm in a firebox that is not insulated. You should keep the cooking temperature, and the firebox closed while preheating your smoker. pushes it sideways. Is it big enough for how much meat you think you’ll regularly smoke? I think you are on track with the flow/ lack of draft with the heat being trapped in an oversized FB. You may find that using a spray is the best option, especially if you have a big smoker, as it may give you less hassle when trying to apply the oil coating. I am thinking about putting my fire box on the same side but chamber? Copyright © 2010-2018 SmokerBuilder Manufacturing LLC I would like to have it Check out this calculator to figure out the exact sizes you should design your smoker with. Now begin adjusting the firebox damper until the flames are smaller, your logs have turned black, cracked, and started glowing like embers. Current Smokers: Backyard RF Offset and Hybrid RF Offset trailer rig with Cowboy cooker and fish fryer, always room for more…….. My thoughts are that heat expands in a too big box and has trouble “flowing” to the chamber, have seen many cookers back flow out back even with stack wide open. I am thinking through this… air comes in the vent goes through the throat down the BP back across the CC to the exhaust. I shoot for a number between 103% and 110% with 107% being the sweet spot for the firebox volume. $ 69.95 Quick View. translation missing: en.general.viewdetail.title. your dampers... By the way, it's a "flew" not a "Fluke" as someone put Sorry I’m just now getting to this post…. If you don’t like standing in the sun all day long this is a feature you will want included. Put the box on wheels and put a flue The fire chamber (sometimes called a firebox) is the main part of the smoker. general consensus is 1/5 the size of the smoker. meat. Temperatures are not constant in the main chamber of an offset smoker. if this is out of this range you will find the smoker will be difficult to control. I shoot for a number between 103% and 110% with 107% being the sweet spot for the firebox volume. All Rights Reserved, How To Find a Barrel For a UDS Drum Smoker. You should be able to get the temp down below 300. After years of smoking meat and using a variety of amazing smokers, the Char-Griller E1224 Smokin Pro takes the crown. My firebox is probably less than 1/5th the smoker size and it works just fine. Velocity and volume are 2 different things. Along with the firebox the Throat opening, Baffle Plate Gap, and the smokestack in an RF Smoker are very important in this balance. Cost about $75. by: Bacnars Backyard BBQ. I also wanted something unique, different, conversation piece, but functional. Now, the PitCalc (whoever’s you use…. Many smoker and smoker supply companies manufacture insulating jackets for smokers. If you’re getting a small-sized gas or electric smoker, you do not need to worry too much about the details. Even if you use the PitCalc you can still get these out of balance. too small and you will lean to lower temp swings with very poor combustion, high temperature difference in the CC, and soot. You can rest the bottom of it on firebricks. opposite side is 20" depth X 36" width and I'm leaving a five inch gap at the This ups my capacity to 15 slabs. big? I shoot for a number between 103% and 110% with 107% being the sweet spot for the firebox volume. Most cold smokers have the firebox separate from the smoking chamber, which gives greater control over the temperature of the smoke. fire box The side closer to the firebox will always be hotter than the side facing away from it. Dexter axles. If you need to move the damper to half closed then your BP gap is most likely too big or you have the pit out of balance somehow…. I'll post pics tomorrow morning, but I turned the cabinet on the side opposite of where the firebox will go, and set the firebox on it in the right spot so the feet set even with the existing feet on the cabinet ( I ended up having to remove the cabinet feet on the firebox side). TIME: 3.03.2012 nick: mantasi how to build a firebox for a smoker Smoker Buying Advice - Life123 Wood-fired smokers need dampers at the firebox and in the lid. chamber that you will have. He states directly in the book that you can go smaller on your firebox if it's insulated, but he doesn't say how much. The smoker I currently use basically had the same dilemma, I did’t know about the feldmans calculator back in 2011 but now I do. I have had success with 4 inch channels on 6 foot smokers however, channels up to 8 inches should be considered on longer smokers. As far as how much of a channel should you build is determined by the length of the cooking chamber, the shape of the same, (round bottom or square) and how big of a fire you want to build at the firebox end. kinda like putting your thumb over the end of a water hose the amount of water coming out is less but it speeds what IS coming out way up…. This is a reverse flow smoker and is all set to go once it's seasoned. This has 619 square inches of cooking space in the main chamber, but if you need a little extra space, a rack in the firebox gives you extra space right over the fire. July 25, 2014. From my experience and thinking… I am sure you have double checked your vent size, throat size and stack size… My first thought is something is a tad bit out of whack of the 3. only two smoker pits that my firebox is to large. Add flavor! heat distribution. Part B: Adjusting the heat and adding the food 1. Good point - didn't mean to highjack the thread. $ 31.89 New. Thanks for reading They vary in thickness and materials and should be wrapped around the smoker but not the firebox. One is the firebox element, ... There’s no need for it to be as big as your main chamber barrel. 4. This creates an excellent indirect grilling area on the firebox half of the cooking chamber. It's our first attempt and I have my design figured out along might take a look there just to be sure. I do want to mention smoke stack and firebox intake settings.. the intake should start out at about half open and the stack should be 3/4 to full open. Why are you putting your fire box on the same side as your thanks, fire box on the side or behind? This safe and sturdy smoker trailer will last forever. Offset smoker fire management can be tricky, ... An air intake vent allows air into the offset firebox which supplies a critical component of fire. by Rodcrafter » March 13th, 2015, 5:06 pm, The firebox is sized according to the volume of air needed to not only aid in complete combustion but also match the amount of air needed to evenly heat the cook chamber volume. and I really look forward to hearing from you. Since many of these big box store offset smokers have a firebox with a top door, it can be a challenge to get that door to seal. Built with two chambers -- a large one for grilling meat and a smaller chamber attached to the side for the fire and smoking wood -- the smoker separates the flame from the meat for optimum slow cooking. Hybrid R. This is one heck of a smoker! more than sufficient. 1/3, 1/2 or 3/4 the size of the cooking area? controlling the volume and velocity of the air movement through the entire cooker. Because the firebox is so heavy it is really hard to move around or store should the need arise. Offset Firebox: How big is too big? i NEED some dos and don'ts about this idea. He built a solid cooker but without any help. Add to Wishlist. Reverse flow offset smokers are relatively easy to spot as they have the chimney mounted above, not opposite, from the firebox. Some smokers come with a temperature gauge to help you monitor the level of heat. Truss; Cover the top of the turkey with a cheesecloth. Because of this you could experience temperature differences of up to 50°F. If you use thinner steel you will loose a lot of heat out of the firebox causing you to burn more fuel and risk warping over time. The air and smoke should travel straight through without stalling. These are one size fits all, so if you have a Big Chief Smoker, the Insulation Blanket will go all the way around the unit, and if you have a Little Chief Smoker, it will go around almost twice, with Velcro provided as a closer. I was going to make my firebox 2' In an RF smoker the Baffle plate gap controls this so we can slow the volume down under the BP and absorb more heat into it for radiant heat to help control CC Temps. Pros. No Need to… This is one of the characteristics that will help prevent the smoker from going out during inspections. Again, there are a few different ways to do this. Even when I use a warming cabinet I do not oversize the FB. Along with the firebox the Throat opening, Baffle Plate Gap, and the smokestack in an RF Smoker are very important in this balance. Then start playing with the chimney damper and try to get the temp in the center of the cooking chamber to about 275°F rather than 225°F at which most charcoal smoking is done. ... How big the wood splits are can affect how long it takes for the wood to get from cold to hot, and finally ignite. perpendicular to the smoke chamber? How big should a firebox be on a smoker? consistent temp without a huge fire. Details . I did the exact same thing with my 40" Masterbuilt Bass Pro Shops smoker. Best Kamado: Kamado Joe Big Joe II Charcoal Grill Buy on Amazon. As an Amazon Associate, Smoker Cooking earns from qualifying purchases. … would greatly be appreciated. In an RF smoker we keep the damper at full open if the pit is balanced properly. Now, that is for an uninsulated box. Firebox size should be 1/3 the volume of the cook chamber. If you have a cheap offset smoker (COS), or a gas smoker, chances are they leak badly around the doors. FYI, an offset smoker is a type of smoker that has a pretty big cooking chamber along with a firebox located on the right side of the smoker to place the fuel source. You might be able to mitigate the problem by making a gasket. Firebox size should be 1/3 the volume of the cook chamber. For years, these hunka-hunka smokers—a.k.a., offset barrel smokers, horizontal smokers, pipe smokers, or “stick-burners”—have dominated the competition barbecue circuit. The firebox holds the fuel source for smoker and slowly transfers heat over to the main unit. this ratio sets the tune for everything else. I recommend you get one with a big chamber since the small ones don’t hold enough fuel. fire box size flue? modification. How big does my fire box need to be, Flue not flew with the dimensions. Pause while your brain rests for a sec…… Your fire box sounds like it would be big enough for the size cooking I can crank the temperature past 400 degrees pretty easyand quickly, which obviously is more than i need except for cleaning. It is a feltlike material and has an adhesive on the back. easier to cook offs and parties. Make sure the turkey fits! But I have always thought his FB was undersized. of the floor before traveling back to the fluke, for added smoke and CJATE Cowboy Posts: 445 Joined: Sun Jul 29, … Wrap the blanket around the smoker as many times as possible and over itself so the blanket is held in place by its own weight. in the 90 deg pipe. This model has a slightly inaccurate analog thermometer installed, which is not a big problem once you get the hang of it. I've been working with smaller smokers so I can cart them around Rooster Cowboy Posts: 470 Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:30 am Location: Forney, Tx. thinwall square tubing. Mine firebox is 24X24X24 and has a hard time maintaining a Step 3 Replenish a handful or two of wet wood chips every 30 minutes and a handful or two of charcoal every hour to maintain the cooking fire and flow of smoke. I was given BBQ smoker by a friend of mine that needed some serious TLC as it had sat outside exposed to the elements for years. 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